2 Nephi 29: 13: “And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: … Yes, indeed! The Bible is not the final word of God. It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). . It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). and lo, Zion in process of time was taken up into heaven" (Moses 7:19-21). 2 Nephi 29:12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. After all, the keys of gathering were given by Moses to Peter, James, and John on the Mount of Transfiguration at that time (Matthew 17:1-9). . Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon—They will say, We need no more Bible—The Lord speaks to many nations—He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. 2 Nephi 16. . Not only do we have the Bible and the Book of Mormon and the other standard works of the Church, but we as a people look forward to additional sacred scripture which will eventually be restored to the earth (D&C 93:18; D&C 107:57, Ether 4:7). 2 Nephi 25. Omni. . 2 Nephi 29:2 Verse Text. ... 29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we a need b … But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. Brigham Young said: "The ten tribes of Israel are on a portion of the earth-a portion separate from the main land" (Brigham Young, quoted by Matthais F. Cowley in his book, Wilford Woodruff, 448). 2:9. In 2 Nephi 26 only three verses can be said to be reasonably direct quotations of verses from Isaiah 29. It is touching to reflect on the Lord's persistent dedication and patience which he evidences for his wayward children-especially his "chosen," those who were especially valiant in the premortal world. The Lord in D&C 91 gave him, in essence, the following answer which is the position of the Church on the Apocrypha: (1) These books contain many things which are true, and they are mostly translated correctly. 2 Nephi 29 Songtext von The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints mit Lyrics, deutscher Übersetzung, Musik-Videos und Liedtexten kostenlos auf Songtexte.com Tag: 2 Nephi 29 What I learned. God will proceed to do "a marvelous work" (the Book of Mormon) and remember Nephi's seed (the Mormons), and the words of Nephi's seed will proceed out of God's mouth. Posted in December, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 2 Nephi 29:6, 2 Timothy 3:5, bible, Book of Mormon, false gospel on 12/02/2019| 1 Comment » December 2 – Time with God is Time Well Spent. We spent a lot of time practicing our presentation for zone conference. About 588–570 B.C. Their respective scriptural records (the Bible and the Book of Mormon) shall function together in the last days. This would include the citizens of the great Gentile nation of the latter days, the United States of America, though many of those citizens are blood descendants of the house of Israel. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? In the final verses in this chapter, we will identify three major scriptural records that have come forth or will eventually come forth. 12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Isaiah 29:13, 2 Nephi 27:25. Chapter 29: "A Cankerous Work and a Blunder" Chapter Summary: Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon--They will say, We need no more Bible--The Lord speaks to many nations--He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. Do they acknowledge the diligence of those righteous Jews, the Jewish prophets, through whose efforts and sacrifice we have a Bible today? Their deafness and blindness was a product of their willful rebellion against the prophets, the … Now, back to Brother Cleon Skousen and The book of Esdras. 11 For I command aall men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall bwrite the words which I speak unto them; for out of the cbooks which shall be written I will djudge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written. Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 29-30 Are we involved in the Marvelous Work? 2 Nephi 2:27 Lehi's teaching on the principle of agency. See the commentary for 1 Nephi 14:1-2; 1 Nephi 14:8. . And because that I have spoken one cword ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my dwork is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever. Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. Read 2 Nephi 29:7-14. 17:40; 3 Ne. And what cthank they the dJews for the Bible which they receive from them? It is used to show the Book of Mormon already anticipated an argument against it, … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 3 → Furthermore they would pronounce a malediction upon anyone who would contend otherwise, often quoting Revelation 22:18: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (even most orthodox Christians today admit the apostle John had in mind only his own book when he wrote this verse-see also Deuteronomy 4:2). 13:25 (23–25); D&C 3:16. It encompasses the first great commandment-to love the Lord thy God. Miracles, spiritual gifts, and revelation are always available to the true followers of Christ. If the Lord is going to set his hand a "second" time to gather Israel, then when was the first time the Lord "set his hand to recover his people"? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 6-7 → 2 Nephi 5. In this setting, the Book of Mormon comes forth by miraculous means and through an unsophisticated prophet to provide guidance to those who have faith. The fragments of the ten tribes who were not taken became dispersed among the nations of the earth. "And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?" A Bible! He says: "Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?" The "words of the lost tribes of Israel" will apparently be brought forth when the body of the ten lost tribes return en masse to join the rest of gathering Israel. 2 For I, Nephi, have not taught them many things concerning the manner of the Jews; for their a works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my dpeople, who are of the ehouse of Israel, that I am God, and that I fcovenanted with gAbraham that I would remember his hseed iforever. Mosiah. The records of the Nephites and of the Jews obviously do not consist of only one book each. 2 Nephi 11. 13 And it shall come to pass that the aJews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the blost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews. See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". Certainly this was an attempted gathering when the Lord "set his hand" to gather Israel. The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. 10:8 (8, 20); D&C 133:8. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. God is going to make another Bible - The Book of Mormon. Ne… Brother Cleon Skousen has also drawn upon the apocryphal Old Testament book of Esdras for some other suggestions regarding the lost ten tribes. But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God. His rationalization might sound something like: "A Book of Mormon! Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? This law simply stated is: "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" (, "when the two nations shall run together". 2 Nephi 10. Read 2 Nephi 29:1-6. About 559–545 B.C. 2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 2 "the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father" The Lord extends the Abrahamic covenant to the posterity of the Book of Mormon people. Nephi puts them in charge of teaching the people. And when the two enations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also. 2 Ne 29:3-4 The term “Bible” is an interesting choice here since the Bible did not yet exist as a single compiled book until the fourth century CE. 2 Ne. Just how grateful are the Gentiles for the Bible they received from the Jews? "when the two nations shall run together" What are the "two nations"? The Nephites, understandably, had a difficult time understanding Isaiah. If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? “What Thank They the Jews”? This week was a whirlwind! 2 Nephi 12. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.” (2 Nephi 29:3) However, God reminds us of the importance of having more… It serves as a natural transition from chapter 8 (2 Nephi 18). Even in these few verses, Nephi's version contains more information than is found in Isaiah's biblical account. A possible extra-terrestrial location of this group is also suggested by Jesus's proclamation: "He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matthew 24:31, italics added). One of the definitions of hiss in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language is, "To whiz, as an arrow or other thing in rapid flight." Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? Ezek. Gen. 12:2 (1–3); 1 Ne. Also contained in this verse are instructions as to how we ought to regard the Jews today. One condition for this proper establishment is that the truth satisfies the law of witnesses. The Lord refers to the people of the latter day. 1 But behold, there shall be many-at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 1 The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. . 6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. 2 Nephi 29; 2 Nephi 30; 2 Nephi 31; 2 Nephi 32; 2 Nephi 33; Jacob; Enos; Jarom; Omni; Words of Mormon; Mosiah; Alma; Helaman; 3 Nephi; 4 Nephi; Mormon; Ether; Moroni; 2 Nephi 25. The implication seems to be that the record of the Jews, the Bible, contains revelation intended primarily for the people of the Old World. Is it not logical to expect a corresponding record to be provided for people of the New World? 20:27; Abr. What to do with misguided children? January 1, 2017. Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. A Bible! Comparison of 2 Nephi 27 and Isaiah 29 This is a side-by-side comparison of 2 Nephi 27 and Isaiah 29. The marvelous work and a wonder which the Lord brings to pass in the last days is the establishment of the kingdom of God on earth, the gathering of Israel, and the fulfillment of the covenants that the Lord has made with the ancient prophets. 2 Nephi 17. An alternate suggestion has been made regarding the identity of the record of the lost tribes of Israel. 4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. Some have suggested that the time of Christ's mortal ministry constituted a "gathering." In speaking of some of the books out of which the world will be judged, President Spencer W. Kimball offered the following insight: "The Book of Life (see Revelation 20:12) will show the earthly activities of all of us, and the book of the angels will give the entire story of every man and what he did in the light and in the shadows, in the open and in the corners, all that is said in the secret places and from the housetops, all that was thought and expressed, whether good or bad. It turned out to be, however, a gathering that did not fully succeed. According to Esdras at some point in time the ten tribes divided into two groups. This chapter contains one of the earliest references to the popular self-important Mormon phrase, "a marvelous work." We sometimes put cultural blinders on and only see things from our own perspective or the perspective of people who are very similar to us. 27:26. Edited by Edward L. Kimball, [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft], 1982, 46). 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